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Even though the Virginia Prince fountainhead myth is dead, TS Separatists still promote it as if it were fact. Today, the Separatists over at “GenderReality” tried to set the record straight on trans history. How did they set the record straight? They just asserted their version of reality to be fact and expected all to simply accept their assertions of fact on faith alone. What refutations did they make of my research – the very research Dr. Milton Diamond referred to as ”…extremely valuable not only to me but to the many researchers who strive for accuracy. Your work has certainly opened my eyes and corrected for me many misconceptions…” you might ask? They simply asserted that I must be a sociopath since I’ve not gotten aboard the TS Separatist express. Furthermore, they asserted that I’m subhuman and need to be dealt with in order to stop the flow of the original source material I’ve published over the past year since it doesn’t toe the TS Separatist line.
Again, this is why the TS Separatist movement – as it has existed over the past few years – is dead.
Arnold Lowman, aka Charles Prince, aka Virginia Prince, was the origin of the term “transgenderist”, as we all know. His relationship with Robert Stoller and others in psychiatry (research psychology really) led to all sorts of nonsense.
Yes, yes, yes… we are all familiar with this myth. Supposedly, Virginia Prince coined the term transgenderist in 1978. This is a well-worn TS Separatist myth:
“I have no idea why it is that the FTM transsexuals continually link themselves with transgender. Transgender is a term coined by and for a male transvestite, Charles “Virginia” Prince, who made it quite clear that he was not a transsexual and actually thought those of us who opted for surgery were delusional.” – http://tinyurl.com/buc5rur
“Coined by rabidly transsexual phobic Charles “Virginia” Prince who published many of those crossdresser fantasy magazines of earlier days and who founded Tri-Ess, a rabidly homophobic and transsexual phobic network of support groups for crossdressers, “transgender” and “transgendered” suddenly were sold as shorthand for transsexual… Suddenly the term “transsexual” included whole new variations such as the “non-op” transsexual in addition to the prior pre operative and post operative. Never mind that the term transgender was coined for exactly this meaning originally, transgender was still tainted by those nasty sexually driven transvestites and so while it was being recast as “inclusive” (always hard to fight being “inclusive”, it’s one of those terms with high positive politically correct context) it was also stripped of it’s original meaning.” – http://tinyurl.com/dyvmr5b
“The coiner of the term transgender was Virginia Prince, a heterosexual crossdresser who held those of us who had sex reassignment surgery in contempt. Virginia was particularly vicious in her opinion regarding WBTs who were lesbian after sex reassignment surgery. She called us freaks and mistakes… As many people are aware, Virginia Prince, a male crossdresser and a staunch promoter of heterosexual transvestism since the late 1950s, invented the term “transgender” in the 1990s to distinguish male crossdressers from men and women born with HBS.” – http://tinyurl.com/d49rkdo
‘I know that the roots of the “Transgender Community” are in the heterosexual transvestite communities, that Virginia Prince coined Transgender. (The quibble point about Prince coining Transgenderist not Transgender is BS. Transgenderist is to transgender what feminist is to feminism.)” – http://tinyurl.com/bmtne74
“the term “transgender,” or more specifically, “transgenderist” originated with Arnold Lowman, better known as Charles “Virginia” Prince. Yes, Prince came up with the term to describe those who crossdress full time.” – http://tinyurl.com/caw423f
“Ekins and King (p9, 2005) write about how Virginia Prince, an American male pharmacologist who went on to live as a female, coined the term transgender. In trying to place her (preferred pronoun) in a historical context they also recorded how Prince was against sex realignment surgery and her disdainful attitude towards transsexuals who underwent genital modification.” – http://tinyurl.com/bs6b3vk
“First of all, the term transgender was coined by a transsexual-hating crossdressing male named Charles Prince who wanted to separate himself from transsexuals. That fact alone sends shivers up our spines.” Dana Taylor http://tinyurl.com/cb436ax
Separatists want YOU to believe that “transgender” came from “transgenderist” and that transgenderist was coined by Prince in 1978. Why? This fantasy seems to be the engine driving the entire movement in that the myth is the only thing they can point to, to give their assertions a veneer of rationality. I mean, here’s an academic book that saying that the term comes from Prince and that it was created by her in 1978:
I mean, it’s a book, right? Books on history books are NEVER wrong… right?!?
No. Prince didn’t coin “transgenderist” in 1978 and she damn sure didn’t coin “transgender.” Here’s a two-page article from early 1975 trans newspaper describing what a transgenderist is and is not, where it comes from and that the term is very young. TS Separatists want YOU to believe that it’s rational to assert that Prince coined the term in 1978 even though it was in wide use years before and finding it’s way into non-Prince trans media. Really. That’s what they want you to believe… and apparently if YOU don’t believe that, YOU might be a sociopath, have a male ego or whatever childish ad hom they can come up with that will preserve their delusions.
Regardless of whatever fantasy Separatists want to propagate, “transgenderist” came from the community itself and was in significant usage by early 1975… A decade after “transgenderism” was being used to describe transsexualism. Yup, “transgender” was being used to describe transsexuals in 1965 – that’s BEFORE Benjamin wrote the Transsexual Phenomenon. In 1965, transsexualism was seen as being an extreme form of so-called “Primary Transvestism” – a concept which was in line with the Magnus Hirschfeld’s view. Hirshfield viewed “transvestite” as a catch-all term for anyone with a “mixture of mental gender differences” (Mischung seelischer Geschlechtsunterschiede, 1918:89). In a 1931 report recounting the genital reconstruction surgeries by Berlin doctor Ludwig Levy-Lenz, the transsexuals in the report were referred to as transvestites.
Benjamin refined “transsexualism” into types so that people who occasionally crossdressed, who didn’t take hormones and did not want surgery were Type 4 Transsexuals, people like Virginia Prince were Type 5 “True Transsexuals” and people like myself who needed to live full time, take hormones and have genital surgery were Type 6 “True Transsexuals.” These categories remained what it meant to be transsexual until the term was redefined by a gay man associated with the Houston transgender community – and specifically Phyllis Frye – Dr. Paul Walker. Dr. Walker redefined transsexual to mean what we currently take to mean “transsexual” in the first HBIGDA Standards of Care (SOC I, Section 4.3.1, Principle 7, 1979) published out of Galveston, Texas.
Before Dr. Walker’s retooling of “transsexual” in 1979, “transgender” was being used in the 60s and 70s to refer to the modern concepts of transsexual. Quite literally, “transgender” has been used to specifically reference surgical trans folk (Type 6 True Transsexuals) longer than “transsexual” has. In 1965, the term was being used to note that transsexuals were not driven by their sex drive in their quest for surgery. In 1970, the term was used to describe a post-op transsexual movie character. In 1974, doctors were using the term to describe they type of surgery transsexuals have and by the late 1970s, the term was being used by Christine Jorgensen to describe herself because “… gender doesn’t have to do with bed partners, it has to do with identity.”
“The transvestite rarely seeks transgender surgery, since the core of his perversion is an attempt to realize the fantasy of a phallic woman.” – (1974, A Practical Handbook of Psychiatry, p 176)
So, “transgender” is at least a decade older than “transgenderist” and there exists no evidence to support the notion that Prince coined jack shit expect perhaps her one solitary use (and immediate abandonment) of transgenderal in 1969 .
The idea that Prince gave Dr. Robert Stoller his ideas about gender is just idiotic. Stoller and Prince’s ideas about gender were diametrically apposed! I think this is one of the stupidest things I’ve yet heard a separatist claim. Compare the following ideas about gender and tell me if they are the same:
Gender identity is the sense of knowing to which sex one belongs, that is, the awareness ‘I am a male’ or ‘I am a female’. This term gender identity’ will be used in this paper rather than various other terms which have been employed in this regard, such as the term ‘sexual identity’. ‘Sexual identity’ is ambiguous, since it may refer to one’s sexual activities or fantasies, etc. The advantage of the phrase ‘gender identity’ lies in the fact that it clearly refers to one’s self-image as regard to belonging to a specific sex. Thus, of a patient who says: ‘I am not a very masculine man’, it is possible to say that his gender identity is male although he recognizes his lack of so-called masculinity. – International Journal of Psychoanalysis, 1964, v 45, pages 220 – 226
“You all have histories where people report that, “Ever since I was this high, I used to pray to God that I would wake up in the morning a girl.” I asked these people, “So you made this prayer. Suppose you woke up the next morning and your penis and testicles were gone and you had a vagina. You had the same clothing, took the same books to school, went to the same class, played the same baseball games with the boys and did everything that you did the day before. Would you think that God had answered your prayer?” They would say, “Well, no I didn’t want that. I wanted to be a girl.” The concept of girlness and femaleness are blurred together. What they are seeking is gender change, but not a sexual change.” – (2005:5-15). Virginia Prince: Pioneer of Transgendering (ed: Richard Ekins. and Dave King) The Haworth Medical Press, an imprint of The Haworth Press, Inc
“I was pleased to have Dr. Fisk use the term “gender dysphoria syndrome,” but if it is truly a matter of gender dysphoria, why do you not offer a gender solution instead of a sexual one? What you really have is a “sexual dys-phoria syndrome.” We have sexual identity clinics in which people are examined, selected, screened, and finally have surgery performed on them which changes their sexual identity.” – Virginia Prince: Pioneer of Transgendering (ed: Richard Ekins. and Dave King) The Haworth Medical Press, an imprint of The Haworth Press, Inc.. 2005. pp. 29-32
Are these two people asserting the same view on gender? TS Separatists want – no, need – YOU to believe that they are.
The earliest mention in that literature goes back to Hirschfeld’s “Die Transvestie”. This led to more speculation about these men who dressed up and aped their idea of women’s sexuality. By the time Lowman showed up, the fringe field of sexology was looking for a unifying theory to join all aberrant behavior.
Well, I mean, if you want to pretend that folks weren’t using “transsexed” to refer to non-transsexual transgender people in 1915, then I guess you can make this assertion. Hirschfeld didn’t coin transvestite; that term has been around since at least 1652 (read your OED). The closest thing to “coinage” that can be given to Hirschfeld is the 1920s term, “transgesticismus” which was originally a Karl Ulrichs term (transgestismus), but was modified by Hirshfield to refer to people who behaved in a cross-sexed manner:
“Seine Gesten sind oft so charakteristisch weiblich, daß man geradezu von einem Transgesticismus im Sinne einer Umkehrung der männlichen oder weiblichen Bewegungs modalität sprechen könnte. ” – M. Hirschfeld, Sexualpathologie III., Leipzig: A. Marcus & E. Webers, 1922, p. 11.
I mean, if you really would like to kick this old skool, you’d need to cite Ulrichs when he spoke of a “feminine soul enclosed in a male body” (Die Geschlechtsnatur des mannliebenden Urnings, eine naturwissenschaftliche Darstellung: körperlich-seelischer Hermaphroditismus. Anima Muliebris Virili corpore Inclusa) in 1868. Ulrich spoke of a mental (seelischer) intersex condition (Hermaphroditismus) as being part of one’s essential personhood (anima). However, this and later use of the “wrong body narrative” was generally used to describe a stereotypical female sexual drive within the body of a male. Magnus Hirschfeld echoed Ulrich’s “körperlich-seelischer Hermaphroditismus. Anima Muliebris Virili corpore Inclusa” with his 1923 term, “seelischer transsexualismus.” It wasn’t until Jorgensen popularized the experience of having one’s essential personhood trapped in an oppositely sexed body that gender was popularized as being the subjective experience of one’s sex within the context of a culture. “I was a woman masquerading in a seemingly male body,” said Jorgensen to her early endocrinologist, Dr. Christian Hamburger. Only after Jorgensen popularized this dysphoric experience of gender as a reaction to one’s physical sex that Dr. Stoller writes of “gender identity” in a way that recognized Jorgensen’s subjective experience…. a view which Prince apposed. Remember also that Jorgensen wasn’t referred to as a transsexual in newsprint until 1966 and then not commonly until the mid 1970s.
There is no transgender movement- it has always been about the transvestites. Transgender does not exist; it is a lie. There is no transgender movement but that which seeks to hide the transvestite agenda, and rebrand the desires of sexual fetishists as a kind of identity, replete with the imprimatur of psychological authority, such as it may be.
I take it back; this is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard a separatist say. So, we’re dealing with a global crossdresser conspiracy against transsexuals. Apparently a crossdresser cabal made transsexuals a deal we couldn’t refuse and now TS Separatist are our only hope!
The bullshit they’re asking YOU to swallow is that the trans community is a top-down oligarchy in which crossdressers make identity pronouncements from on high and – for some inexplicable reason Separatists never seem to get around to talking about - EVERYONE simply gave up their personal and group identities to assume the new one crossdressers told them take on. They need YOU to buy into this victim narrative, otherwise they’ll seem a little cuckoo bananas and won’t get to pretend anymore that they are actually vessels of some special insights which they must give unto the masses lest we transsexuals face certain doooooom!
The transgender community IS NOT one symmetrically monolithic mass; rather, it’s an exquisitely diverse and interlocking system of smaller and smaller interlocked groupings all linked by gradations of common experiences and history. Separatist BS asks us to believe that somehow an identity pronouncement can be made from on high and that all of these very, very different groupings with very, very different interests and needs – for some inexplicable reason – then simultaneously accepts and takes on this pronouncement of identity. The trans community contains within it disparate groups which would have virtually no contact with each other outside of the realm of a shared experience and history. These shared gradations of experience and history facilitates communication and hence, the reality of community itself.
Any of the identity terms the trans community uses were not written in stone by some leader and passed down to us, their devoted followers from on high; that’s a complete distortion of how community identities come into common usage. Only those identity terms which resonate sufficiently throughout and between the various gradations of groupings will become real identity terms. The very idea that the trans community can be somehow told, instructed and/or forced into taking on new identity terms is preposterous to most anyone who’s done community organizing work if they think about it even for a moment!
But don’t take my word on how coinage myths are BS. Listen to what Dr. Daniel Dennett has to say about these myth in his lecture at Oxford University:
At some point in the 1990′s, political correctness was thrown into the mix. It became politically incorrect to use any term except “transgender”. There were, by then, a few transsexual people who attempted to represent the transsexual group within this mess. But they were quickly shown the door by the increasingly cult-like “transgender” bosses. That is the extent of transsexual involvement in the “transgender” movement.
As I said, they need YOU to believe that personal and group identity is given from on high from trans “bosses” otherwise it isn’t a mythical top-down oligarchy and they are not victimized freedom fighters locked in an epic battle for the future of all transsexuals. Because, if Prince didn’t coin transgender and if the trans community isn’t an oligarchy then that makes their views more than a little nutty.
And now we come to the epic ad hom attack wherein I am diagnosed by this TS Separatist as being a sociopath who needs to by stopped because I refuse to join them in their delusion:
People like Williams are doing nothing more than lying. Not misunderstanding, not good people getting confused. Just flat out lying. They are trying to continue this campaign of transsexual extermination, because they are attempting to become the new transvestite thought leaders. They are transvestites through and through, as well as highly sociopathic, and they get many cheap thrills out of our frustration and degradation.
Because the sociopath’s chief goal is to commit murder by creating conditions for the suicide of others, I see no reason to treat with these monsters as if they are fellow human beings. We don’t owe them the time of day, much less ingress into our lives through dialogue.
They are invaders and must be expelled. The sociopath transvestites must simply be defeated. And that will be the end of “transgender history”.
And there you have it folks. This is what TS Separatism has come to. Yes, because I won’t blindly swallow the TS Separatist line hook and sinker, I must be mentally deranged. Furthermore, I should not be seen as a human being by others; I’m sub-human and need to be dealt with. And YOU better get on board with TS Separatism otherwise YOU might forfeit you’re right to humanity as well.
This isn’t just a nutty example of some extreme voice, this IS the exact message TS Separatist leaders are currently pushing. Here’s the leading spokesperson for TS Separatism, Ashley Love:
For example, this Spring a few self-promoting and self-aggrandizing “transgender” bloggers, authors and “gender outlaw” entertainers (who actually financially and professionally profit by enforcing transgender socio-politics and umbrella-ism theory) are obsessing over how to stop the inevitable transsexual liberation by creating petty drama, speculating, concocting ‘out of this world’ and laughable history revisionism, taking actions and quotes out of context, presuming to know one’s intentions as if they are telepathic, unrobing and degrading the bodies of women born with transsexualism and behaving like unstable, over compulsive and anti-social pesonalites, fueled by their amazing male egos and desire to get attention, although it’s negative attention. Their desperate behavior is obviously a backlash to the realization that their fantasy “transgender umbrella reservation” mandate is coming to an end. They are dealing with their ‘bubble being popped’ like most imperialists do when their colonies breaks free: Retaliating with [mental] violence, back tracking, faking evidence and agreements,mispspesking for deseased transsexuals & others, and transparent [and failed] character assassinations against numerous women of transsexual history that are being seriously listened to. Their over the top cyber bullying is very telling in how they lack genuine facts to back up their opinion based frame work, as well as not having authentic or sincere intentions, just the typical crafty lies most politicians spit when they want to CON-vince the people of something they know dang well is *hog wash*.
- Ashley “I hate citing evidence” Love, May 6, 2012
This is the true face of TS Separatism: Batshit Crazy.