Republican Support is the Problem!

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In my post about the logical fallacies a Republican judge had to turn a blind eye in order to come to the untenable conclusion that Nikki Araguz is a dude, I caught some heat because, as one commenter put it:

For the record, ‘Republicans’ are no more monolithic than are gays. Implying that a moronic, self-identifying Republican somehow represents all Republicans is equally moronic. I’d thank author to examine her obvious prejudice as well as her practical hypocrisy.

Here’s the deal… and this is only my personal opinion… If you choose to support the Republican Party, you’re choosing to harm the GLBT community. Don’t roll you’re eyes, allow me to elucidate…

Here’s My Premise: Deal With It

So, I know you’ve got a bag of rebuttals in your pocket and you’re ready to throw them at me. However, before you do so, please respond to my actual premise. To be clear, here’s my my simple 2-point argument:

  1. Point 1: The Republican party is an anti-GLBT organization. To argue against point #1, you will need to cite factual evidence that supports that in the face of their stated aims and goals, that they are really a pro-GLBT organization. If you can’t do that, your argument is fallacious.
  2. Point 2: There is an inherent ethical problem (hypocrisy) with claiming to be pro-GLBT civil rights while simultaneously supporting anti-GLBT outcomes that are demonstrably harmful to the lives of GLBT people. To argue against this, you will need to provide a credible argument that demonstrates how supporting our nation’s largest and most powerful anti-GLBT organization is consistent with supporting GLBT civil rights. If you’re arguing point #2 and cannot do this, your argument is fallacious

Basically, I offer up nothing more than this simple if-then logic: If you are pro-GLBT civil rights and support anti-GLBT outcomes, then your actions are hypocritical.

If you’re offering  rebuttal that doesn’t challenge at lest one of these 2 points, it’s probably a fallacious argument.

Fallacious Arguments

I can already hear the fallacious arguments coming:

  • “Okay, so maybe state platform(s) is/are a bit extreme. However, you can’t claim that ALL Republicans are like this!”
  • “Democrats are no better! They did XYZ!”
  • “I know X number of Republicans who disagree with the Republican Party on this issue!”
  • “I’m not a single-issue voter. I vote for what’s best for my country, not what’s best for myself!”
  • “Common now! XYZ Republican had a gay person working for them!”

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Each and every of the above arguments are fallacious responses to my premise. I’ll go into why they’re fallacious in a bit, but I feel that I need to make my argument clear: If you do not address at least one of the above 2 points in your reply, you’ve probably created a strawman argument.

Supporting Evidence for Point 1: Republican Party is an Anti-GLBT Org

The Republican Party is the largest group in the nation actively trying to stand in the way of GLBT civil rights. In other words, the Republican Party is the largest anti-GLBT organization in the nation. You think that’s hyperbole? Here’s what the Texas Republican Party has to say about GLBT people:

Homosexuality – We believe that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society, contributes to the breakdown of the family unit, and leads to the spread of dangerous, communicable diseases. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle in our public education and policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We are opposed to any granting of special legal entitlements, refuse to recognize, or grant special privileges including, but not limited to: marriage between persons of the same sex (regardless of state of origin), custody of children by homosexuals, homosexual partner insurance or retirement benefits. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional value.

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rep1 This is only the tip of this bigoted iceberg. They go on to describe how they intend to limit the GLBT community’s access to everything from healthcare to parenting. By definition, a group espousing these goals is an anti-GLBT organization. I don’t care what clever rational you can come up with, the bottom line is that helping our nation’s largest anti-GLBT organization increase it’s ability to maximize suffering within the GLBT community is bad.

Think that’s just a Texas thing? Here’s what Iowa Republicans want:

We support an amendment to both the U. S. and Iowa constitutions that states that all marriages should be traditional one natural male and one natural female, omitting transgendered.

– 6.03, Iowa Republican Party Platform

They go on to say…

We call for the repeal of sexual orientation in the Iowa Civil Rights Code and we oppose any other legislation or executive order granting rights, privileges, or status for persons based on sexual orientation.

And for yet another facepalm moment to their platform, they go on to say…

The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not to ensure equality.

Yah, yah, yah. I know what you’re going to say. You’ll say that it’s normal for state Republican platforms to be this rabidly anti-GLBT (which somehow means that the Republican Party as a whole isn’t supportive of the goals and aims of state Republican Platforms?). Okay, so here’s what the National Republican platform has to say about GLBT Americans:

To protect our servicemen and women and ensure that America’s Armed Forces remain the best in the world, we affirm the timelessness of those values, the benefits of traditional military culture, and the incompatibility of homosexuality with military service.

– Page 5, National Republican Platform

Republicans have been at the forefront of protecting traditional marriage laws, both in the states and in Congress.  A Republican Congress enacted the Defense of Marriage Act, affirming the right of states not to recognize same-sex “marriages” licensed in other states.  Unbelievably, the Democratic Party has now pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, which would subject every state to the redefinition of marriage by a judge without ever allowing the people to vote on the matter.  We also urge Congress to use its Article III, Section 2 power to prevent activist federal judges from imposing upon the rest of the nation the judicial activism in Massachusetts and California.

– Page 53, National Republican Platform

Forcing religious groups to abandon their beliefs as applied to their hiring practices is religious discrimination.  We support the First Amendment right of freedom of association of the Boy Scouts of America and other service organizations whose values are under assault, and we call upon the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to reverse its policy of blacklisting religious groups which decline to arrange adoptions by same-sex couples .

– Page 54, National Republican Platform

Conclusion: Any organization making the above statements is, by definition, an anti-GLBT organization. This particular anti-GLBT organization has more money, more political power and more influence over the daily lives of GLBT Americans than any other ant-GLBT organization in America. Organizations that repress GLBT civil rights effects the quality of life of GLBT people. Therefore, the Republican Party is our nation’s largest, most powerful anti-GLBT organization in American damaging the quality of life for GLBT Americans.

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- Excerpt from the largest US trans study ever

Supporting Evidence for Point 2: The Ethical Question of Hypocrisy

Reality Check 1: Apples to Apples

Lets say you are a member of a political organization that supported something you’re in favor of. Lets say that this organization is perceived to be a leading advocate against child rape. We can all agree that child rape is bad. For the sake of argument, lets also say that there was evidence to support the idea that this organization you belong to is somewhat effective in preventing child rape.

burka Now, lets say that it is proven that this organization that does this wonderful thing unfortunately uses part of the support it gains from you trying to pass laws that will force all women to wear burkas.

Lets say this organization that works to stop child rape claims that trying to force half the population to live in a cloth bag is a matter of religious freedom and that in this place called America, we should tolerate other religious views. Additionally, they claim that not every member of their organization believes that women should be forced to live in cloth bags. This organization even has a few publicly known non-burka wearing women who regularly go on news programs claiming that in America, we have to tolerate differences of opinion and besides… they try to stop child rape.

This hypothetical organization claims to do admirable work. Not ever member of this organization wants to violate the civil rights of a certain class, just the organization itself. They even have a few women advocating on behalf for the organization that is working to oppress all women. In the real world, would any of these points matter to you? In the real world, wouldn’t you choose to support a different organization that works to stop child-rape instead of the one that is actively trying to force all women to live inside cloth bags?

  • Would you continue to pay your dues to this organization?
  • Would you continue to proudly proclaim your membership?
  • Would you debate the merits of keeping such an organization around?
  • Would you help this organization get people elected who want to force all women into burkas?

Now, for arguments sake, lets say that the Republican Party really is the party of small government, balanced budgets and low taxes.

Also, for arguments sake, lets say that it’s a fact that this organization does these wonderful things but unfortunately it uses part of the support it gains from you trying to ensure that all GLBT people should be forced to give up their civil rights.

Lets say this organization that works for small government, low taxes and balanced budgets claims that working to destroy the quality of life for GLBT people is a matter of religious freedom and that in this place called America, we are called on to tolerate other religious views other than our own. Additionally, they claim that not every member of their organization believes that the civil rights of queer people should be utterly destroyed. They even have a few GLBT people advocating on behalf for the organization that is working to oppress all GLBT people.  They go on to claim that in America, we have to tolerate differences of opinion and besides… they strive for smaller government, lower taxes and balanced budgets.

  • Would you continue to pay your dues to this organization?
  • Would you proudly proclaim your membership?
  • Would you debate the merits of keeping such an organization around?
  • Would you help this organization get people elected who want to oppress all GLBT people?

Did your answers change?

Reality Check 2: The Strawman

I think most of the fallacious arguments I noted in the “Logical Fallacies” section seem to be nothing more than an effort to resolve the ethical question a GLBT-supporter encounters when they also support our nation’s largest, most powerful and most destructive anti-GLBT organization. None of the following are actual answers to this ethical dilemma; they are simply justifications:

  • “Okay, so maybe the platform(s) is/are a bit extreme. However, you can’t claim that ALL republicans are like this!”
  • “Democrats are no better! They did XYZ!”
  • “I know 2 Republicans who disagree with the Republican party on this issue!”
  • “I’m not a single-issue voter. I vote for what’s best for my country, not what’s best for myself!”
  • “Common now! XYZ Republican had a gay person working for them!”

Not one of these positions deal with the actual ethical question.

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None of these arguments change the fact that the Republican Party is the largest, most powerful and most effective anti-GLBT organization in this nation.

Strawman logic is often used when we are doing something we know produces bad outcomes, but justify it with coming up with arguments that, while they do not resolve the ethical question, help us feel better about our actions.

A thief might rob a rich person and justify it by assuming that the rich person was insured or that the thief needed the cash they would get from the stolen item more than the rich person. These justifications do not resolve the ethical question of theft. They exist merely to help the thief live with the outcomes their behavior produced.

If you’re supporting the one organization that is most effective in working around the clock to increase the level of suffering within the GLBT community, in my book, that’s not good.

Between April 9-10, 2011 CNN asked 824 people, “Do you think marriages between gay and lesbian couples should or should not be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages?” 51% of the respondents said yes… which is great news! However, 71% of Republicans said no.

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Now, would it be correct to say that according to this data, most Republicans surveyed agree with the stated goals and aims of the organization they support? Would it also be correct to state that the minority of Republicans that do not agree with the stated goals and aims of the organization are nonetheless complicit in supporting the stated goals and aims of the organization through their continued support of the organization?

The Last Fig Leaf

The argument of last resort I’ve seen used by a number of people is to claim that they are trying to work within the organization to create positive change.

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- From the Log Cabin Republican website, June 17, 2011

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So, lets look at the value of this argument. In doing so, I think it is important to review a number of points:

  • Does this resolve the ethical dilemma of hypocrisy?
  • How much positive output is created  through one’s involvement in this organization?
  • How much negative output is created  through one’s involvement in this organization?

Unlike the strawman logic I touched on above, this “last fig leaf argument” is an attempt to directly address the issue of hypocrisy. I know, you’re probably thinking, “But, how can one be a hypocrite if one is working on behalf of their convictions?” To answer that question, one must look at actual outcome metrics and not any one person’s good intentions.

The foundational falsehood that needs to be addressed with regard to this justification is to recognize and acknowledge that there is a difference between an organization which inadvertently harms GLBT people and an organization that clearly states that one of their main goals is to harm the GLBT people.  When dealing with our nation’s largest, most powerful and most destructive anti-GLBT organization, we are dealing with an organization that exists to ensure that GLBT equality will never become a reality in this nation. This, as their official platform states, is a core mission of the Republican Party. This isn’t an organization that has a couple of bad apples who are homo/transphobic; this organization is a bad apple whose stated goal is maximize homo/transphobic discrimination.

About 30 years ago, a man named Louis Bonsignore – who supported GLBT equality – helped form the Log Cabin Republicans. His goal was to work from the inside to create change. Care to guess what he had to say after 30 years of banging his head against a brick wall?

We have watched with dismay as gay-friendly Republicans have cut deals with the far right to save their own necks at state and national conventions or to curry favor with them for their own “special interests” – usually business or religious zealots. Example: Pete Wilson’s vetoing Assembly Bill 101 in 1991 (a gay- rights bill he openly campaigned for in the 1990 race) to stave off the wrath of Lou Sheldon and the Traditional Values Coalition. Since serving as a field rep for former Governor Bob Ray (R-Iowa) in 1978 until September of this year, when Governor Schwarzenegger vetoed the gay marriage bill here, I have been a staunch Republican. (Is there any other kind?) Now, I am an unofficial Democrat. I will be an official Democrat after this year’s election when I can safely re-register without jeopardizing my ballot.

– Louis Bonsignore, 2005

An organization will only change a fundamental reason for its existence when its existence is predicated on changing its deliverable accomplishments. At some point, Republicans as a whole will have to get on board with GLBT rights or face extinction. The Republican Party WILL NOT change their core value (being anti-GLBT) regardless of what any well-intentioned person does “on the inside”. The Republican Party will only change because they value their continued existence more than they value their desire to produce harmful outcomes for the American GLBT population.

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If you look at the above dataset, you will notice that Republican support of marriage equality has grown from 14% in 2008 to 25% in 2010. One might argue that this is proof positive that working from the inside works… And they’d be right if it wasn’t for the fact that support for marriage equality grew across the board between 2008 to 2010. Why?

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Because the general population is beginning to view GLBT equality in the same way we now view racial equality.

The above graph plots out the Republican, Democratic and Independent support of marriage equality from the above dataset. In this graph, there are 4 distinct trends for the Republicans. Note that with only one exception, Republican support waxes and wanes with cultural forces and not due to any well-intentioned people working from the inside.

In 75% percent of the entire sample, Republican support coincides with Democratic and Independent support. Only during the June 2008 – February 09 period does Republican support for equality break with cultural support. Why is that? Could it be that  between 6/08 and 2/09 there was a mass exodus of GLBT-supportive people within the Republican community (who, then presumably returned in March of 09)? Or, could it have been…

 

REP-REACTION 2008 newspaper headline

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… the 2008 Presidential Election? The Republican Presidential candidate backed Prop 8. Personally, I think it is far more likely that the identity politics of rounding the wagons around a Presidential candidate – no matter what – was a more likely source for the dip in Republican support for GLBT equality than a sudden lack of people who claim to support GLBT equality.

As far as I can tell from the evidence, I can find no statistically significant impact GLBT-supportive Republicans have had in halting the Republican Party in carrying out their explicitly anti-GLBT equality goals. As I said above, the more the non-Republican population views anti-GLBT outcomes as being bad, the more Republicans will be put into a position of being required to get on board with GLBT equality or face extinction as an organization. The demonstrably successful pressure to support GLBT equality comes from our culture’s demand for GLBT equality and not from some well-intentioned people working from the inside. Until the day comes that the vast majority of the non-Republican population views being anti-GLBT exactly like being racist, the Republican Party will continue to be anti-GLBT.

One need only Google “Republican Homosexuality” to see what 30 years of GLBT-supportive people supporting the nation’s largest anti-GLBT organization has produced:

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While Republicans are still fretting over GLBT equality, Democrats, Libertarians, Greens and most Independents support GLBT civil rights. If the only reason you support the Republican Party is because you value small government, low taxes and balanced budgets, why not support the Libertarian Party? When you have other conservative options open to you that support your goals and are also GLBT-supportive, what reason do you have in your continued support of anti-GLBT outcomes?

At what point do the cons outweigh any dubious justifications? At what point does one decide that harming the people they claim to care for become a more important issue than the perceived payoff (real or imagined) of being part of an anti-GLBT organization?

Regardless of the justification, it is hypocritical to support anti-GLBT outcomes if one claims to be pro-GLBT equality. The idea of working from the inside to change what is fundamental to the Republican Party has been field tested and found to be ineffective. After decades of working from the inside, the organization is still our nation’s most destructive anti-GLBT organization. There are conservative alternatives to the Republican Party that do not seek to crush GLBT civil rights and yet, many GLBT-supportive people still choose to continue helping our nations largest anti-GLBT organization harm the lives of GLBT Americans.

The Wrap-Up

The point of this post isn’t meant to berate or alienate Republican-identified people who believe that they support GLBT civil rights. I made this post because there seems to be a disconnect when dealing with the fact that input (Republican support) is linked to output (Republican-sponsored anti-GLBT outcomes). If one’s support of an organization results in real suffering within the community they claim to care about, is it really that unfair for someone else to notice that their walk isn’t matching up with their talk?

I know that some of you will want to grouse over this post. I know that some of you will want to respond and I encourage you to do so. However, please honor your position by dealing with my 2-point argument instead of offering up ad homs, strawmen or various and sundry appeals to authority. If you cannot or will not address my actual premise, I will conclude that you do not have a valid argument.

Lastly, I wanted to share the following video to hit home the fact that there are other conservative political organizations available to conservative GLBT people/supporters other than our nation’s largest anti-GLBT organization:

http://www.youtube.com/v/pBavo8IIVCM

Disclaimer: This blog post represents my current views/opinions and does not necessarily represent the views/opinions of any organization I work with.

17 thoughts on “Republican Support is the Problem!

  1. Its a sad thing indeed to realize that many Tblg people believe the Republican Party will ever EVER do anything but hate and exploit all TlgbQ issues for the gain of party power. At Reagan's convention , they made it quite clear with open bashing , throwing the entire community out of the tent. Those who think they are wanted in the party are very mistaken – look at the reception the log cabinettes got at CPAC – they were not wanted. My opinion is that any gender variant and or gay person who is a Republican is suffering a severe disconnect , if not Stockholm syndrome. I am less inclined to be patient as i see their support of the republican party as being an actively hostile act towards people in the TlgbQ. I have asked to be removed from lists due to others stating their republican affiliations because i think they are more interested in personal power than in any kind of liberation or human rights movement. just my opinion. just sayin. I agree there is a major disconnect going on inside of these people. ( again i am speaking only for myself and only about this issue )

  2. Nice piece but there’s one problem – too much. You start out great, with simple logic. But then you open the door to spin by giving our opponents more to spin about.

    Simple logic, such as you outlined in your two points, is difficult to put a spin on. Leave your article with just those two points and see how they respond. IF they stick to your two points, they are toast. And if they don’t, then respond like you did after the two points.

    Of course, by challenging them to respond ONLY to your two points, there’s a high probability they won’t – because they know they will lose.

    1. Thank you for taking the time to share your thought about my post!

      Yes, there where several times that I thought that for many, the response to the post would be tl;dr. The reason I chose to be as explicit as possible was that I wanted to to ensure that I not only provide a premise, but that I would also provide supporting evidence for my premise. This post isn't directed at the choir; rather, this post is directed at the folks who use fallacies and justifications to continue behavior that contributes to the suffering within the GLBT community. I felt that had I simply made an assertion and not provided the evidence, my premise would have been dismissed out of hand or spun in any number of ways. I felt that being explicit would allow me to reference what I wrote to refute fallacious representations of my premise – or "spin" as you put it.

      IF they stick to your two points, they are toast

      Unfortunately, that isn't the case. Here's what one person asserted:

      Premise one is a false dichotomy. It is possible for them to be neutral on LGBT issues.

      To which I responded…

      What might a real-world example of 14th amendment neutrality look like?

      If I am neutral about protecting 14th amendment equality (GLBT equality), I am not supportive of 14th amendment civil rights protection. If I'm not supportive of 14th amendment civil rights protection, then I and the Republican platform have something in common. Nether a neutral nor a negative position are supportive of GLBT equality.

      Remember, an agnostic is an atheist. An Atheist is someone who is with without a belief in god. Neither the agnostic nor the atheist holds a belief in god.

      In this case someone who is agnostic to GLBT equality and someone who is openly anti-GLBT equality are the same in that neither supports GLBT equality. If you don't support GLBT-equality, you don't support GLBT equality. There is only on position that can be taken that is not an anti-GLBT equality stance.

      To paraphrase Edmund Burke, "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing."

      Thus…

      "To argue against point #1, you will need to cite factual evidence that supports that in the face of their stated aims and goals, that they are really a pro-GLBT organization. If you can’t do that, your argument is fallacious."

  3. I'm sure my points will be dismissed but i'll give it a try anyway. first, to qualifiers:
    1. I am not explicitly disagreeing with your conclusion, just adding what i feel is needed context.
    2. I am not in fact a Republican supporter. i have on occasion voted for them (far more so than for Democrats) but my political instincts are revolted by both major parties and i consider myself closer to (small "l") libertarian than either.

    My context has three, no four parts:
    First: Us/Them politics is counter-productive. If one "writes off" the opposing group as unwindable and takes their stand firmly with the opposition, then you reinforce your opponents resolve to be unwinable. Whatever might be said for political activism on the left side of the spectrum, there is, in my view, a SERIOUS need to "put a face on" trans issues (and the larger LGBT community) among those on the right who have limited exposure. It's much more difficult for my right-of-center friends to know me and care for me and still say "no rights for you" and that applies in all cases. Isolation from us makes it much easier to oppose us. You might say, well sure, be friends with them but be active for Democrats and the left – but they can see that. if you go about with an Obama bumper sticker and a pro-choice button and the whole nine yards, your arguments for trans rights are automatically written off as "left wing nonsense." but if they know that you are otherwise "one of them" – small government, tax cuts, pro-life, whatever – then your counter-argument on trans rights is not so easily ignored. Especially when you appeal to small-government and pro-liberty instincts in order to make the case.

    Second, the concern for the very great peril represented by our economic situation is compelling. if the choice was between bad economics (in my view) on the left which resulted in 1% growth as opposed to good economics that represented 4% growth (for example) on the right – I'd probably vote Democrat because the rights would take precedent. On the other hand, when the choice is between disastrous policies (in my view) on the left and (at least professed) sane positions on the right, I have to ask myself – who will ensure my rights when the country collapses in a massive depression or worse? It is only a sound government which has the power to do that. So in that sense, it is not completely irrational to sacrifice a political action which I would prefer because of the intense urgency of some other concern.

    Third, even though the Republican demographic still lags badly in opinion polls, the public sentiment for gay/trans rights is an unrelenting tide in our direction. They WILL come, as the recent article on HuffPost notes, the war is over – some just haven't realized they have lost yet. The key demographic is not the party split but the age split. Even the head of Focus on the Family is on record saying the gay marriage battle is lost – and make no mistake, when that is accomplished all the other things we are fighting for (or you are fighting for if you prefer) get WAY harder to logically argue against. if they stop fighting your marriage, they will not go to the mat on housing or employment. So what you argue for here is not win v. lose, it's urgency – do it in the next five years instead of the next 10 or whatever.

    Fourth, you note regional politics (rightly so) in admitting that some northeastern Republicans might support our rights, but you ignore the reverse of that. you live in Texas, i live in MS. i don't know that I can speak for your legislature, but in this state – the most Democrat of Democrat, the most left of the left person who can possibly get elected in any district in this state would not DARE sacrifice their electability to support a gay/trans friendly bill. the most left wing districts are in the delta, heavily African American – but African American voters are also the most stridently anti-gay (even more so than evangelicals). In a state with big cities like Texas there will be some pro-gay enclaves. But in the VAST swath of non-urban America, voting for a Democrat is by NO means voting for a gay/trans friendly office holder. Quite the opposite. Even when gay/trans friendly is the party line. Put another way, if You don't live in a city that's at least the size of, say, Nashville the option to vote for a LGBT supportive politician, of either party, almost certainly doesn't exist. Which means when you vote Democrat is solidarity with your activist brothers and sisters, you get all of the bad aspects of left-wing economics and none of the good aspects of left wing social policy. In fact, you reinforce exactly the WRONG instincts on both sides of that ledger.

    so in summation, while i do not disagree with your observation on a national, corporate level, I respectfully submit that you overlook a GREAT deal of needed context to basically take a sledgehammer to any LGBT person who gets off the Democrat reservation. and an abundance of words doesn't change that.

    1. Wow! THANK YOU for adding so much to this conversation! I really appreciate the time you took to make your points. THANK YOU!

      I am, with few exceptions, in agreement with your points.

      Point 1: Yes, I agree the us/them dichotomy is fallacious. That's why I noted the position of everyone from the Greens to the Republicans. The Republican Party is the outlier on protection of the guarantees of the 14th amendment. This isn't a Democrat (us) v Republican (them) issue; rather, this is the Republican Party choosing to be out of step with the rest of the entire country on constitutional equality of all American citizens.

      Point 2: I think this is basically a false dichotomy as it comes perilously close to the us v them dichotomy you said isn't helpful in Point 1. My point is that there are other conservative options out there (ranging from a Blue Dog Democrat to the Ayn Rand Libertarian) to pick from and none of them represent an anti-GLBT equality organisation.

      Point 3: I agree with you.

      Point 4: I agree with you. It seems that MS Dems are cowards. I also think that like Reps, they will be forced to get on board with GLBT equality of get left behind.

      Your Summation: Unfortunately, this is a strawman. I never proposed that people need to vote Democrat. This isn't a Democrat v Republican post. I don't care if people vote Dem, Green, Libertarian or Independent in the context of GLBT equality because all of these parties support 14th amendment guarantees for all Americans. My only concern in this post inspiring people to cease empowering the largest and most destructive anti-GLBT equality organization in our nation.

  4. I love this! I just don't see how Republicans can identify themselves with doing the will of God. They are the biggest hypocrites. Maybe I am wrong, but doesn't the bible say something about "Treating your neighbors as yourself"? Inhibiting the rights of anyone seems to contradict this statement alone. And to put themselves in the position to judge what is right and wrong, I thought that was the in the bible too. Wasn't God supposed to be the one to judge? Sorry never been able to see past the Republican cloud of deceit. All they do is take the parts of what they want and bend it to the mission they feel like they need to complete. It would be like taking the comment, "Cigarette smoking is good for you, if you want to die," and only using the "Cigarette smoking is good for you" part. Well, Republicans, why don't you listen to another quote….."Suicide is Painless."

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